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Post by callawaycoolctu on May 11, 2013 12:58:26 GMT -5
yeah hakker was an unstable dude and hard to deal with. I don't think he was trying to b.s people but I think he got ahead of himself. A lot of things went crazy on his side of things and he freaked out and went awol for a while. I was talking to him and involved a lot on his forum. It just went awry, and people were trying to mess with what he had going on. But he did kind of just bail on his trial and on a lot of people.
As for as German, he did give up on it all, I spoke with him. He said that he gave up on height increase and didn't believe in it anymore. So yeah he's done or at least thats what he told me around last summer.
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Post by bballplaya on May 26, 2013 17:48:45 GMT -5
Hey guys, I was one of the trialers for Hakke/Fusion for his open plates, one of four I believe, and I did grow about half an inch in like a month using his supplements. He sent me three supplements for $150, two types of pills and a liquid and gave me a schedule to take them as well as other supplemens lik niacin, forskolin etc. He wouldnt tell me what the supps he sent me were for secrecy or whatever, but I've figured one out to be letrozole and one i'm pretty sure is oxandrolone. Idk what the liquid was still, but it tasted like it contained alcohol. Anyways, I've recently decided to continue it again buying new ox and letro. If anyone can tell me what the liquid is or what else I can do to grow taller with open plates or who to contact, thatd be great. But other than that, just wanted to let yall know that Hakker was real and not a sc, at least in terms of open plates.
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Post by alphagenetik on May 27, 2013 6:17:41 GMT -5
He was a scam. His open plate routines were never his inventions. Use the google search to find oxandrolone plus letrozole Routines for height increase from dates like 2001. Was hakker even born then?
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Post by 1mitchnathan on May 27, 2013 18:08:20 GMT -5
bball
When did you grow, and at what age? Why would you grow, and then have Hakker disappear on you? It's very strange.
Half an inch in a month in really amazing- maybe too good to be true. And if it were Oxandrolone and Letrozole, something else would have to be in play because Oxandrolone increases testosterone to a point of diminishing returns (too much test is bad), and Letrozole completely blocks estrogen, which is needed for a person to grow.
The supplements he had you stack it with do seem outdated, because forskolin has minimal benefits and niacin is hit or miss for many.
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Post by theotheradam on May 27, 2013 21:22:23 GMT -5
Hey guys, I was one of the trialers for Hakke/Fusion for his open plates, one of four I believe, and I did grow about half an inch in like a month using his supplements. Mitch is correct, testosterone doesn't have much on height increase, it might be that you grew that much naturally, howver I did find this article from 2003 (Aplha is correct with the fact that this is old stuff) that uses oxandralone and letrozole, but It also uses Igf-1 (igf-lr3 peptide actually) Igf-1 does much more on HI than test. The Other substances might be part of this stack. If you're confident with the stack, continue with it, but you might aswell use this and get your own supplies. (Oh and most importantly inform us of any growth if you could ;D) forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/54368-height-growth-cycle.html
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Post by bballplaya on May 28, 2013 15:15:09 GMT -5
I was 17 years old when I used it. For some reason, about a week after I received the supplements and was instructed what to do, HeightCatalyst went down and I was never able to report the results that I got. And looking at the wall where I grew, it was acutally 3/8" in 5 weeks, so not as great as I last said it was. But I did not grow at all for like 6 months before then. What I did was 2 weeks on, only letrozole for 1 week, then 2 more weeks, so take it for what it's worth. And I am not totally sure that the white pill was oxandrolone, I pretty much just guessed that it was (I was instructed to take it every day and it had a line through the middle on one side and on the other side said Janssen, probably the pharmaceutical company). And i have no idea what the liquid was, like I said it tasted like a type alcohol, and I was instructed to take 1.5mL every 3 days.
And I think what I am going to do now then is start ordering supplies for that routine that you posted. Btw where can I get Long Chain R3 IGF-1? And do you guys know at all if it still works without testosterone ethenate, because there is no way I am injecting anything into my body. Is this the best routine out there for open plates? Or is there anything else I could stack with it? Any help would be much appreciated and I will definitely keep you guys updated on any growth.
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Post by theotheradam on May 29, 2013 18:35:53 GMT -5
Ordering peptides is a little tricky. It all depends where you live. I'm guessing you live in the United States, so here are some places I've seen on BB forums: labpe, PurchasePeptides, Rui-products, Tan-Reasearch (I got my CJC from them--pretty good). I live in Canada so I usually get my peptides from a Canadian supplier, but I did order from Tan it's just that it was stuck in customs for 3 weeks, which is a pain. IGF-1 LR3 is one of the harder to produce peptides, so you'd want to look around some forums and check the legitimacy of the peptides, (especially the LR3) from the sources I gave you. I did find some good reviews from labpe and Purchase Peptides, and Tan Research sells good CJC(they were a pain with service, though), but you should really check the BB forums before buying anything. I have been using peptides for my HI, not IGF-1 though (Have open plates by the way). I've seen a little increase in the last 2-3 weeks, but it's too little to cross out the possibility of just measurement error, and it probably is. I have no clue about whether Testosterone would affect it, in fact from my knowledge (maybe someone else on the forum would like to give some input) testosterone isn't too important for height growth, in comparison to other things, nor would it really be synergistic with igf-1. I think another main thing that is need would be FGF-2 (alkoclar's system), but I have no idea how to increase it, or what to do with FGF-2. If you have any more questions from me about the peptides, post them on my thread "GrowTallerLog (Open Plates)" in the "Open plates" section, or make an account (which you should do, bro) and pm me-- so this thread isn't filled up with other information. Hope I helped. ;D
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Post by lucky7 on Aug 7, 2013 11:09:46 GMT -5
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Post by Jack MacMillan on Jan 19, 2015 3:23:17 GMT -5
Hi! This guy hakker was a real nice guy and he was true for open g.plates.
Does anyone knows how it's possible to contact him? I really need his help or I'll lose my life. please if anyone knows tell him to contact me in: jackmacmillan4567@gmail.com
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Post by aymie90 on Jan 23, 2015 1:34:39 GMT -5
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